(July 30, 2017 at 11:17 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(July 29, 2017 at 3:34 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: The same way that a psychologist deems someone, who has subjective evidence for his faith in killing other people, as delusional.
Subjective, personal faith is not a safeguard against delusion.
I didn't say it was a safeguard against delusion. I said i cant see how you can consider it an automatic indicator of a delusional person, when most of you admit that it is *possible* that there may be a god(s), there just hasn't been sufficient evidence to convince you. Obviously someone who kills people is not right in the head to begin with. But i dont see how it makes sense for you to say that being a theist, in and of itself, is an indicator of a delusional person when you admit there is possibility they could be right.
I really do wish my fellow atheists would make the distinction of past present and future when talking about possibilities.
It is most certainly true that nobody in the world has lived the entire future currently. In that context regarding the future sure, "nobody knows".
But there are tons we do know, and there are most certainly things humans can scrap as far as claims without sacrificing any possible future discoveries.
I am only "agnostic" about the future, but even then that really is just semantics on many claims.
I currently reject all past and present claims of unicorns, so I am an atheist on unicorns. But "technically" sure, I don't know the future, so I am agnostic on unicorns. But even then, the possibility of unicorns being real is so fleetingly remote it isn't worthy of consideration.
We do have evolutionary and even neurological explanations as to why humans have false perceptions. God claims are mere reflections of humans qualities in concepts of aspirations, desires, fear and narcissism. We are not a reflection of a real God, or any god or any deity. Those things are a human projection of us.
A super natural cognition is not required to explain how life formed or how the universe happened. For the same reason one does not need Poseidon to explain how hurricanes form, nor do we need the gap answer of Thor to explain why thunder and lightening happen.
We don't know what the future holds and "I don't know" is fine to say in that context. But it also does not require clinging to the past, in fact, it requires letting go of the past when better data comes in.