(August 1, 2017 at 11:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 1, 2017 at 9:22 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'm telling you that the only evidence available to be pointed to in the source you linked...does not support or argue for the case made in the source you linked. My evidence, dipshit, is your own damned link. The author buried this deceit in a mountain of mythical irrelevancy..but, I guess..that's one way to con a mark, huh?
If you need evidence outside of your link..look no further than this thread. We don;t find much in the way of remains of those that had been crucified - even when it would be expected. What we do find are credulous imbeciles who, 2k years after this supposed fact, are willing to believe absolutely anything that they think conforms to their fairy tales, and no shortage of people willing to spin elaborate lies to provide the product they desperately want.
So just to clarify your evidence is the testimony of one man... correct? However Evan's also pointed to a lot of other testimony besides just that one citation... didn't he?
You may also notice, that the passage in Josephus says that this was the Jewish practice to bury the dead before sundown. Which while it was the Roman Pilate who ordered him crucified, it was at the request of the Sanhedrin. Philo also mentions that there where times where a man was taken down from the cross, and allowed to be buried (Flaccus 81.
As well the physical evidence of a man named Yehohanan found in an ossuary who was crucified. This dates to the first century.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-a-stone-...ucifixion/
Further there is Pandects (Roman Law) which allowed for it to be granted that the bodies of criminals may be returned to the families although it may not be allowed either. (Note on this source, I could not find an online copy to verify, but a number of citations)
I can grant, that it may not have been common for the Romans to take down the body of one who was crucified. But their is evidence, that it did occur. Now during times of war, such as the Jewish wars, this would not likely have occurred. Why is this so difficult to admit, that it may be true?
No, the entire body of medical science and physics is our evidence that people don't fucking magically come back to life, walk on fucking water or transmogrify it into wine, multiply fish and bread a hundredfold, rise into the sky without the aid of aeronautics or rocket propulsion, heal blindness without medicine or surgery, or morph ordinary substances into flesh and blood. What those DO say is that the human mind is extremely susceptible to false beliefs, seeing things they aren't actually seeing (or hearing, smelling, etc.), that people are known to have agendas and ulterior motives and good ways to identify when they're attempting to manipulate others or are in the midst of spinning a lie, that writings can be forged, plagiarized, doctored, mistranslated, etc., and that assloads of the claims both scientific and historical in that worthless book of soiled TP are complete and utter rubbish.
Suck on that one, dipshit.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.