(August 20, 2017 at 9:37 pm)Court Jester Wrote: Well first off Thump... thank you for your service.
I don't know anyone that sleeps without the occasional nightmare, but there is no argument of the utility. The air force is a little different with the collateral damage, but the necessity is the same and sadly unarguable. I have a close friend that I ride sport bikes with that was a pilot in the Air Force and now works for a commercial air line. He's opened up with some deep shit that he wakes up with. It's natural, but even he's talked about bombing the boarder. And he's probably about the nicest guys that I know.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think I speak for the GI any more than you do. And I know that my anecdotes are just that. But none of the veterans I know support killing illegal immigrants. And if they did I probably would give them wide berth in the future for holding such ridiculously extreme views.
(August 20, 2017 at 9:37 pm)Court Jester Wrote: The boarder argument is a bit different than anything in the Middle East and I don't think the government will ever post riflemen and spotters on the boarder, but it would slow the flow for sure. It's the utility of it.
The fact is that humans are moral beings, insofar as we have that capacity to have moral considerations. Utility is a consideration for things, rather than people.