I have a fundamental problem with this entire discussion.
The "testimony" at the bottom of this poorly laid logic trap is some kind of sacred text, is it not? Am I off base in assuming it's the bible?
Because if not, then why are we talking about testimony? The bible is not testimony. The bible is fiiiiiiiictiooooon. Those things did not happen. I don't think a fucking one of those characters is any more real than Gandalf or Hercules or King Arthur. The things in that book are demonstrably false in every testable sense, it's filled with barbaric and contradictory shit, and the god it depicts is a blood-mongering lunatic who's obsessed with human and animal sacrifice.
Now if you're not arguing for the veracity of the bible and are instead pandering for the general idea of supernatural nonsense being accepted on the hearsay of the people who say it happened, then go on and present your "testimony" so we can attempt to decide if it's acceptable evidence for whatever your claim is. Did you see a ghost or something?
(Forgive me for not reading this thread back to front; I'm watching Star Trek.)
The "testimony" at the bottom of this poorly laid logic trap is some kind of sacred text, is it not? Am I off base in assuming it's the bible?
Because if not, then why are we talking about testimony? The bible is not testimony. The bible is fiiiiiiiictiooooon. Those things did not happen. I don't think a fucking one of those characters is any more real than Gandalf or Hercules or King Arthur. The things in that book are demonstrably false in every testable sense, it's filled with barbaric and contradictory shit, and the god it depicts is a blood-mongering lunatic who's obsessed with human and animal sacrifice.
Now if you're not arguing for the veracity of the bible and are instead pandering for the general idea of supernatural nonsense being accepted on the hearsay of the people who say it happened, then go on and present your "testimony" so we can attempt to decide if it's acceptable evidence for whatever your claim is. Did you see a ghost or something?
(Forgive me for not reading this thread back to front; I'm watching Star Trek.)
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com