RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender
August 23, 2017 at 1:21 pm
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2017 at 1:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Then that would be your, entirely convenient, ideology....then?
This doesn;t mean that I think theres some compulsion to succeed. Or that, when a persons biological sex is genuinely relevant, it shouldn't be taken into account - I don;t think that you should have to successfully see a biological male as a female, or vv...or that you see tham as "none", nor do I think that a biological male who identifies as female with respect to gender should have legally assured access to womens health services (that would be pointless, lol "hey doc, how are my non-existent ovaries doing today?") - but you can put forward the bare minimum effort, we all can, we all have an ethical compulsion to at least -try-......and part of that implictly includes not setting extraneous obstacles either socially or by law - or by advocating for shitty arguments meant to diminish the subject entirely.
Agreed?
(August 23, 2017 at 1:17 pm)shadow Wrote: 'Changing genders' implies that there are distinct genders and you are choosing one of them. Like, if I change my job, I distinctly no longer work in one job and I distinctly work in another. If you don't believe that genders are distinct, sure, choosing between two is better than being forced into one, but the full extent of your view is that you shouldn't have to choose between two.There -are- distinct genders in any given culture. They are meaningfully arbitrary, but they exist. The full extent of my view is that people should be afforded the dignity of choosing between whichever they want, or choosing neither.
This doesn;t mean that I think theres some compulsion to succeed. Or that, when a persons biological sex is genuinely relevant, it shouldn't be taken into account - I don;t think that you should have to successfully see a biological male as a female, or vv...or that you see tham as "none", nor do I think that a biological male who identifies as female with respect to gender should have legally assured access to womens health services (that would be pointless, lol "hey doc, how are my non-existent ovaries doing today?") - but you can put forward the bare minimum effort, we all can, we all have an ethical compulsion to at least -try-......and part of that implictly includes not setting extraneous obstacles either socially or by law - or by advocating for shitty arguments meant to diminish the subject entirely.
Agreed?
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