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Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?
(August 25, 2017 at 8:13 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(August 24, 2017 at 4:40 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  Funny you should say the above, (bold by me). Because Christians do not get what we deserve, it comes through the grace of God alone. Now atheist according to God will get what they deserve and in the end they will not want it, they will want what they rejected and if they hadn't rejected Him would have gotten what they did not deserve.

GC

We don't care what your imaginary friend says.

 That's why you will get what you deserve, if you do not change.

GC

(August 25, 2017 at 1:35 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(August 25, 2017 at 12:36 am)Godscreated Wrote:  If they deserve punishment then they should receive it, punishment in their case isn't a bad thing (well maybe in their opinion it is), it is a teaching tool to help set them on a good coarse for the future.
God doesn't seem to agree with that assessment..or, at least that's what you just told us.  

No I didn't, Hebrews 12:6 says, 'The Lord disciplines the ones He loves, and chastises every son who He receives.'" This is for all peoples and I know it well.

Quote: Looks like you are going to stay the coarse even if it means eternal punishment, the post above this to Astreja, I reply about what it take to choose such a coarse.

Khemikal Wrote:Meh, it's not like I have a choice in the matter..so, if god is going to punish me, purportedly for "deserving" eternal torture due to my inability to be a scapegoater...that's what gods' going to do.  One wonders, if that were the case, what the lesson is supposed to be, what "good course" is being set for my future.  

You have the choice of Jesus if you will take it, and what do you mean your inability to be a scapegoat, nowhere in the bible does it say man will be a scapegoat. You are suppose to learn the lessons here, not after you die.


(August 25, 2017 at 12:52 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I was broken, Christ is in the process of rebuilding me daily. Without what He did on our behalf we all would stay broken spiritually and like I said before spiritually is how God deals with us in the end. You can call Him what you want but He chose to do it for you, a gift of eternal enormity.

Khemikal Wrote:If your comments on these boards are any indication of his progress....it seems as if all his work is still ahead of him.  A person who chooses to enngage in some disgusting act on my behalf without consulting me hasn't done me any favors...you realize?

God doesn't consult with anyone, He is God... you realize? The work was finished on the cross, John 19:30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished," and He bowed his head and gave up his spirit. 
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 5, 2017 at 2:59 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 3:02 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 3:10 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Chad32 - August 5, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by brewer - August 5, 2017 at 3:08 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by chimp3 - August 7, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by chimp3 - August 8, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by chimp3 - August 9, 2017 at 5:27 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - August 13, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 15, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 16, 2017 at 11:17 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 16, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2017 at 10:56 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 16, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 17, 2017 at 3:33 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 17, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 18, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 24, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 19, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 23, 2017 at 3:26 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 25, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 24, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 25, 2017 at 1:17 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 26, 2017 at 12:32 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 30, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 1, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 1, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 1, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 2, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 2, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 1, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 2, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Succubus - September 5, 2017 at 6:08 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Succubus - September 8, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 5, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 7, 2017 at 10:02 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 7, 2017 at 11:20 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - September 14, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2017 at 3:36 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 14, 2017 at 11:57 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 15, 2017 at 1:41 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 14, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 15, 2017 at 12:46 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 15, 2017 at 3:25 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 25, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Succubus - September 25, 2017 at 2:11 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 25, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 25, 2017 at 9:06 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 26, 2017 at 3:17 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 26, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 27, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 28, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 29, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 29, 2017 at 2:50 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 30, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 30, 2017 at 5:16 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 29, 2017 at 7:52 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 30, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 27, 2017 at 8:03 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 26, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 25, 2017 at 3:37 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 25, 2017 at 8:30 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 25, 2017 at 8:38 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 15, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 14, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 15, 2017 at 2:45 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 20, 2017 at 8:42 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 7, 2017 at 10:45 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 13, 2017 at 3:01 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 13, 2017 at 3:46 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 5:48 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Harry Nevis - September 13, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 13, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - August 25, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 24, 2017 at 11:42 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 15, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Athene - August 5, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Chad32 - August 9, 2017 at 9:04 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2017 at 12:07 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by chimp3 - August 10, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Drich - August 11, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Drich - August 15, 2017 at 1:09 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2017 at 11:18 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 16, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 17, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by rado84 - August 22, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 22, 2017 at 11:03 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 22, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 23, 2017 at 12:36 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 23, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Astreja - August 23, 2017 at 10:17 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - August 25, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 5, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Succubus - September 5, 2017 at 6:45 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 5, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Succubus - September 6, 2017 at 6:13 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 7, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 8, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 8, 2017 at 10:46 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 14, 2017 at 7:22 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2017 at 7:59 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 15, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 15, 2017 at 12:09 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Cyberman - September 15, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Silver - September 26, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 26, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Silver - September 26, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 26, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Silver - September 26, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by brewer - September 26, 2017 at 9:09 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by vorlon13 - September 28, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Godscreated - September 30, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Ravenshire - September 30, 2017 at 5:25 am
RE: Better terminology for "Father and Son" ? - by Atheist73 - September 29, 2017 at 3:33 pm

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