(May 9, 2009 at 2:17 pm)g-mark Wrote:fair enoughlilphil Wrote:Scalar field theory defines a scalar potential as the vacuum virtual particle flux (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong)
You are wrong.
(May 9, 2009 at 2:17 pm)g-mark Wrote: Scalar field theory applies a scalar value to every point in spaceOK
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(May 9, 2009 at 2:17 pm)g-mark Wrote:lilphil Wrote:The burden of proof is on you, if you're suggesting that it would be observed, since you are making a claim that every almost every physicist in the world would disagree with.
wiki Wrote:No fundamental scalar fields have been observed in nature, though the Higgs boson may yet prove the first example. However, scalar fields certainly do appear in the effective field theory descriptions of many physical phenomena.
wiki Wrote:In physics, an effective field theory is an approximate theory (usually a quantum field theory) that includes appropriate degrees of freedom to describe physical phenomena occurring at a chosen length scale, while ignoring substructure and degrees of freedom at shorter distances (or, equivalently, at higher energies).
wiki Wrote:The Higgs boson (nicknamed the God particle) is a massive scalar elementary particle predicted to exist by the Standard Model in particle physics. At present there are no known fundamental scalar particles in nature.
And once the world was flat and my balls are made from brass. One day you may also eat your words.
Again, relevance?
We are not discussing the existence or otherwise of the higgs boson.
It's existence offers no support to what you are proposing, which seems to be that there is a "background" energy scalar field i.e. that points in space can be ascribed energy values other than the energy of the atom, electron etc at that point.
And that somehow this energy can be drawn as a power source and not be depleted.
If I'm mistaken about what you believe, please lay it out clearly for me.
And you posted those wiki quotes as a response to my request for evidence.
you have offered no proof.
Give me a link to a peer-reviewed paper that describes the effects I described.
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip