(August 28, 2017 at 9:12 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(August 28, 2017 at 8:07 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I don't know. Maybe I more than a bit jaded from my time on AF. While you may sincerely hope to be convinced, I see far too many atheists claiming to be open to evidence but I doubt that they are expressing a genuine sentiment. Given the insults and ridicule L4C hurled my way when she first joined, I find it difficult to believe she would accept any evidence at all.
There's an awful lot of talk about positions, stances, and so on.
What there hasn't been is an attempt to produce testimony so we can examine on what basis we feel it should / shouldn't be accepted.
(August 28, 2017 at 9:02 pm)Astonished Wrote: Look, boner, your fundamental misunderstanding of the scientific method and what constitutes evidence does NOT reflect badly upon us, it reflects badly upon YOU and not only does not help you build a case, but it makes your personal credibility decrease. The one thing rational skeptics ask for, nay, DEMAND, is REAL FUCKING EVIDENCE, and enough volume of evidence sufficient to warrant belief in any given assertion. It helps religions' case not one bit to continually claim that their only source of proof is 'beyond science' or that it has to be interpreted in their specific way in order to reach their conclusions. You don't want to be insulted? Start acting like a respectable human being and stop demonstrating that you have the mind of a child who can't figure out these extremely simple concepts, and stop arguing with us because you're ignorant of the points you're failing to make by repeating yourself ad nauseum when you've already been proven wrong time and again. You want to argue or raise a valid point, come up with some that aren't incredibly stupid, demonstrably wrong, or which haven't been tried billions of times and are still unconvincing.Too much melodrama. The Christians are arguing as they think best. Because they lack evidence we consider sufficient, we reserve the right not to accept either the specific Christian tenets or the God idea in general. But your response here seems pointless-- you are taking the time to type words, but what goal do you have in mind for speaking in this way?
His desire to blame us for his failed arguments is only hurting him, which will never motivate him to either stop or improve his performance. I'm simply pointing out the problem (with a little 'tough love') and laying blame where it actually belongs so as to inspire thoughts in a different direction than their consistent collision course that leads nowhere. Good enough?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.