Testimony is Evidence

[RoadRunner79]

No.... you could personally witness the evidence, rather than having someone else tell you about it.

Shock and gasp.  You mean.....there's a difference between testimony and evidence after all?  Who would have guessed.

See how you cant maintain one side of this song and dance and the other simultaneously?

I can see making a distinction, in how the facts or information was acquired (either through testimony or personal observation). And on one hand, the testimony is separate from the evidence, on the other hand, it is part of the facts or information which justify a belief or proposition to be true or valid (so we treat it as evidence).  

As an example, you can have two people see the same thing, and one can give a really crappy testimony, and the other gives a more accurate detailed representation of what occurred.  The evidence is what they had seen, however the conveyance of that information can be of a different quality, even though the observation was the same.

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I don't know. Maybe I more than a bit jaded from my time on AF. While you  may sincerely hope to be convinced, I see far too many atheists claiming to be open to evidence but I doubt that they are expressing a genuine sentiment. Given the insults and ridicule L4C hurled my way when she first joined, I find it difficult to believe she would accept any evidence at all.

How many times do I have to say that that's not your call to make? Why can't you simply present your evidence and leave it to us to decide whether or not we find it convincing? Complaining about our integrity only serves to make us think you don't have any evidence, or at least have no confidence in what you may have.

I find this, more than a bit ironic!

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Another example... out of curiosity.

A number of astronomers from various locations in the world observe a phenomenon which shows that the universe is eternal. Hugh Ross (Christian astronomer and apologist was one of the ones who observed this event, and begins to drastically change his views) This phenomena had a limited time window, which it could be observed, and we are unable to observe it at will.

Assuming that the testimony of this event is good (as well as the reasoning for the conclusion)i s there evidence for an eternal universe in this scenario?