RE: Testimony is Evidence
September 5, 2017 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: September 5, 2017 at 1:59 pm by Astonished.)
(September 4, 2017 at 9:34 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(September 4, 2017 at 1:35 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: It looks like RR has bailed on his own thread, again.
What's the over/under on number of weeks before he posts "Testimony is Evidence V: The Final Bullshit Argument?"
Sorry, I've been busy building a deck. Working hard, but good days, and didn't feel like coming here (and ruining it with the negativity).
Is there something that you would like to discuss more?
I could see where we could discuss the studies or reasons that are being used to say that witness testimony are unreliable and therefore not good evidence. We could go into what the studies actually say, and their impact on the discussion.
Or we could discuss how I think that you are inconsistent in your views and that I wouldn't be allowed to dismiss evidence, just because it comes as testimony from another. As well as those who are arguing that their personal experience is too unreliable in which to base a belief.
(September 4, 2017 at 1:39 am)Minimalist Wrote: How many people were murdered by fine xtians giving "testimony" that they were doing witchcraft? You have to be an amazing asshole to think such "testimony" is valid for anyone but another idiot jesus freak.
Do you think that was based on good testimony?
You seem to be laboring under the delusion that you are somehow uniquely immune to this problem of not falling for or falling victim to shitty testimony. You betray your arrogance yet again and it once more does nothing to support your position.
You're the only one here who's demonstrated inconsistencies in your view because we're constantly forcing you into a corner and yet you're not willing to own up to and admit you're wrong, doing an amusing (though the novelty has long since worn off) tap-dance to try and save yourself when really all you're doing is lying at that point. Grow up.
Testimony is. Absolutely. 100%. FUCKING WORTHLESS. Absent of corroborating evidence.
It's no different than the actual initial claim it's meant to be supporting. It's simply another assertion of not only what it purports, but also that what it is purporting is true and accurate. Nothing so loaded can in and of itself be considered evidence. And that's without the fallibility of the human mind (case in point, yourself), willful dishonesty (again, surprise, case in point, yourself) or simple misunderstandings of a situation or the objects or persons involved in what was witnessed.
And protest all you want, your wish to equate claims that are at least based in reality (and which can be corroborated by evidence) with claims that not only have nothing to do with reality, but have less than zero ability to be corroborated by any evidence whatsoever, is the pinnacle of dishonesty and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.