(September 12, 2017 at 10:58 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:(September 12, 2017 at 10:49 am)Hammy Wrote: The ultimate value is presence of joy strong enough to overcome suffering. The second most ultimate value is absence of suffering. The third most ultimate value is absence of pain. The forth most ultimate value is presence of pleasure.
The 6th is finding comfortable yet affordable pants.
99% of the time that's synonymous with the 1st.