A question about original sin.

[C Rod]

"Converts are not of choice. I have a religion with a God and you guys lack belief in a god. I find that any real discussions over philosophy and understanding could be best gathered through the different views. What am i supposed to do go to a Christian forum and say you believe in God, cool man me too! It seems though nothing can be understood but what is already understood from what i see on this forum and the constant ridicule of the faithful."

I think you might have more success, and a less bumpy ride, at places like these:

http://www.christiandoctrinediscussion.com/

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/index.php

Atheists are in general so sick of religion-for historically eminent reasons, that they waste little time in excoriating the believers who come in wanting a "philosophical" give and take when in truth, what is desired is a capitulation to a theological nonsequitur.

Thanks for the links.

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Converts are not of choice. I have a religion with a God and you guys lack belief in a god. I find that any real discussions over philosophy and understanding could be best gathered through the different views. What am i supposed to do go to a Christian forum and say you believe in God, cool man me too! It seems though nothing can be understood but what is already understood from what i see on this forum and the constant ridicule of the faithful.

Im operating under the assumption that you know something to be more true or more important than others things. Do you work under the understanding of some unquestioned truth or do you recognize a belief as true?

You see constant ridicule, because the religious are constantly making ridiculous claims.

More true or more important? Either you point to the evidence that supports your claim to knowledge, or accept that you have no such knowledge. If you think you have evidence, fine, lets see it.
If your evidence turns out to be bullshit, I don't want you crying to me about the brute force of fact.
That's whats true to me, that's what's important.

You have no claim? What fact do you accept?