(September 19, 2017 at 11:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery
Quote:Ancient Israelite society allowed slavery; however, total domination of one human being by another was not permitted. Rather, slavery in antiquity among the Israelites was closer to what would later be called indentured servitude. Slaves were seen as an essential part of a Hebrew household. In fact, there were cases in which, from a slave's point of view, the stability of servitude under a family in which the slave was well-treated would have been preferable to economic freedom. It is impossible for scholars to quantify the number of slaves that were owned by Hebrews in ancient Israelite society, or what percentage of households owned slaves, but it is possible to analyze social, legal, and economic impacts of slavery.
Lol thanks for making my point for me.
You'll note (or maybe you won't) that a comparison is made between ancient Hebrew slavery and indentured servitude, and then the article goes right on referring to it as slavery, because that's what the fuck it is. Biblical slavery and indentured servitude are not the same thing, and your link pretty well supports that assertion.
Furthermore, some masters were not kind, and your god expected obedience from their slaves, too.
Quote:I can debunk that nonsense with with one question... Did they observe Jubile?
But more importantly, blacks in America weren't recognized as human beings, It had nothing to do with Hebrew law.
Oh man...you didn't look it up, did you?
You also don't seem to understand the term "based on." I didn't say the systems were the same. I said one is based on the other.
Quote:*emphasis mine*
The practices of Abraham is the foundation the law is built upon.
- Animal sacrifice
- Circumcision
- Tithing
Which kinda makes how he treated his servants relevant.
I thought the law was based on the arbitrary musings of your blood god...
Quote:And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated - Deuteronomy 34:7
Argument over.
I'm sorry. I should have been more clear. I was asking about the lifespans of real people.
Quote:Oh please, black people have always been subjugated in America, when were we ever free? and by free I mean considered equal.
Quote:Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857), also known simply as the Dred Scott case, was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on US labor law and constitutional law. It held that "a negro, whose ancestors were imported into [the U.S.], and sold as slaves", whether enslaved or free, could not be an American citizen and therefore had no standing to sue in federal court, and that the federal government had no power to regulate slavery in the federal territories acquired after the creation of the United States.
That's a supreme court ruling which makes it legal precedent.
Legal precedent that was eventually overturned, dipstick. The point is that both Hebrew and American slavery had systems by which slaves could gain freedom (but I think you knew that, Captain Disingenuity).
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com