setting a watchman

[Drich]

lol, someone hasn't heard about colonialism.

Also, saying African countries don't have many resources is uninformed. Many do -- oil, bauxite, gold, iron and so on -- but those leases are owned and operated by the foreign companies left in place after the liberation of colonies.

This entire thread is a monument to the post hoc fallacy. Africa isn't screwed because it's run by blacks. Africa is screwed because colonialization prevented the formation of stable governments in many cases, up until the 1960s. It's also screwed because organized religion still plays a huge role in their societies, leading to high rates of HIV, large populations (meaning lower per-capita incomes), and violence perpetrated or inspired by the faithful.

lol... Someone doesn't know the socioeconomic placement the sum total of African ran countries had before colonialism. Again at best most countries were akin to what a bronze age city state would look like. the vast majority were still well placed in the stone age.

You are right to say the african countries did not ever develop, but again they never left the stone age for the 10's of thousands of years that preceded colonialism either. (there was a reason colonialists were shoot tribes men with muskets, that were armed with cows hide shields and stone tipped spears.)

it is not a fault or failing of a content of people. The development of the "africa"/nations is only less developed when you compare it to modern society. They were simply on a different path, one that lent itself to the status quo rather than change.

That is why or rather Harper lee's Atticus describes black people as a "young race" that needs direction and guidance. With it He describes the vast differences between black people here living in America verse black people who were left to their own development.

That is why there isn't equality nor ever will be if black Americans seek to be anything other than just an american first.
Whites from all over and many different nations dropped their identity to be Americans first. so do Asians and middle easterners and the like. You can talk to first gen transplants they are Americans. then associate with origin. as such I believe most of the country on an individual basis see those people as equal share Americans. However if a middle easterner identifies Taliban or what ever iron age based faction they are apart of first.  then identifies as american... Most people would no longer see that man as an equal.

To be an american is a social status without race. it is a collective that we must all agree to be apart of first.. for whites if Germany calls and says all white germany of fighting age report back to the father land... then the white men who leave are not seen as Americans. (which did happen in WWII as well as for the Italians and Japanese) The Same is true here with black people. to hold them self as "Y"(anything) before American is a form of self segergation. Martain Luther King Jr. rebuked the Malcom X doctrine that morphed into the term "black American." MLKjr want equality and saw that if one was 'black' before american that 'he would never belong to america first. because ALL other races must give up their home identifies to truly be consider an american.

So for black people to want to hold on to a stone age identifier or to be considered to be anything besides an american, creates a self imposed segergation that will never allow for equality. The ultimate end/Why would someone retain their orgin status over being considered an American? conflict or domination. Those are the only two logical outcomes. History bears out this fact over and over and over again. a country who can not unite will fall

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Ah... nuupe I didn't.

That's call spin sport. Spin is when one cherry picks and then re-imagines a close but new meaning to what was said.

This is literally what you said. 

So why aren't black people as an stand alone group seen as equals? The same reason Koreans who support the Kim regime are not seen as equals, for the same reason white who support communism or Nazi socialism are not seen as equals or any other race who does not support America first

See what I mean by spin???
because this is what I said
So why aren't black people as an stand alone group seen as equals? The same reason Koreans who support the Kim regime are not seen as equals, for the same reason white who support communism or Nazi socialism are not seen as equals or any other race who does not support America first, or anyone who only seeks to take from this country and not put back, those who seek to hurt or those who seek a broader national identity first. will never be seen as equal. The thing is 'young people are generally entitled to just take and have things their way and not play the game like everyone else.

(you cherry picked 1/2 a paragraph and that allowed you to change the narritive)

When you add the 2nd paragraph it does not lead you to your statment but would have the reader ask why would someone seeking to perserve his culture over that of the collective 'melting pot' american culture...

The answer is because all races forgo their countries of orgins to become americans. white on mass were stripped of photos heirlooms renamed so not to sound german jewish or whatever. the idea was to assimilate everyone and melt us all together and have this new thing this new country...

To be seen as a African, or korean or ISIS or NAZi american puts that social order above and in front of what the rest of this country has sacrificed in order to be an american. it is a form of self segergation.

I go on in detail in my last post.