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But how good are we really??
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But how good are we really??
I started a poll thread yesterday asking people if they thought of themselves as good. I answered the poll myself (yes) and also stated that I think most people/the average person are generally good.

I do feel that way. But nonetheless there is something that has always bothered me about that sentiment.

The thing is, most of us don't rape, murder, steal, cheat on our spouse, etc (whatever it is that might make us "bad people")... simply because we neither have the desire to nor the opportunity to. Especially with rape and kill. We can pat ourselves on the back for never having done anything like that, but really it's just pure luck that we weren't born with the genetic desire for those things, and/or raised in such a way or culture that might lead us to it. Its pure luck that I don't have the genetic predisposition to want to have sex with multiple men and so I stay loyal to mine. But if we wanted to do something really bad and we had the opportunity to, would we do it?

Does it really speak to our character when we've never done anything really bad simply because we've never had the desire/opportunity to do it? When was the last time we resisted doing something (even something really small) that we wanted to do and could do, but didnt simply because we thought it was wrong? And if we always do the wrong thing every single time we want to and have the opportunity to despite knowing its wrong, are we really that different from the person who rapes every time he feels like it and can? If so, the only difference between him and us is desire and opportunity.

Maybe saying "im a good person because ive never killed, raped, stolen, cheated, abused anyone, etc," when the desire/opportunity to do those things was never there to begin with, isnt a good measurement of character. Maybe character should be measured by the times we wanted to do something we knew in our hearts is immoral, had the opportunity to do it, but chose not to simply for the sake of doing the right thing. Unfortunately, off the top of my head, I can think of a handful of times I've resisted immorality, but not overwhelmingly. Maybe none of us are really as good as we think we are.

As Dumbledore said, "There comes a time in life when we must choose between what is easy and what is right." When that happens, how many times do we take the easy road?

Thoughts?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 10, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Astreja - October 10, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by vorlon13 - October 10, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Jackalope - October 10, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 10, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Valkyrie - October 10, 2017 at 5:42 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by vorlon13 - October 10, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Brian37 - October 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Minimalist - October 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Anomalocaris - October 10, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by brewer - October 10, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 10, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Aroura - October 10, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 10, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by brewer - October 10, 2017 at 5:26 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 10, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Valkyrie - October 10, 2017 at 6:44 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by vorlon13 - October 10, 2017 at 6:57 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 10, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by vorlon13 - October 10, 2017 at 8:43 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Valkyrie - October 10, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by brewer - October 10, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Whateverist - October 10, 2017 at 8:13 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 10, 2017 at 11:25 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by energizer bunny - October 11, 2017 at 1:02 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by vorlon13 - October 10, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Divinity - October 10, 2017 at 5:12 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2017 at 5:31 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 10, 2017 at 6:11 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2017 at 6:17 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by LadyForCamus - October 10, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 10, 2017 at 8:54 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 11, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by drfuzzy - October 10, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Nay_Sayer - October 10, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Minimalist - October 10, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2017 at 7:13 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 10, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Jackalope - October 10, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 11, 2017 at 7:08 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Rev. Rye - October 11, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Catholic_Lady - October 11, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by energizer bunny - October 11, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 11:49 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 11, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: But how good are we really?? - by Emmett - October 16, 2017 at 11:25 am
RE: But how good are we really?? - by henryp - October 16, 2017 at 12:45 pm

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