(October 13, 2017 at 9:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've always felt this has to be one of those dilemmas that ruins theists' sleep:
-If the first clause is true, then that means morality exists independent of God, and God isn't needed for Man to be a moral actor.
-If the second clause is true, then one must accept rape, enslavement, murder, torture, infanticide, and genital mutilation as morally good.
Boru
It's mostly just not even knowing what is actually in that book. We (back when I was a regular attendee) just listened to the stuff said, and walked away feeling better in some way, if only for the experience of community, or knowing that we were "good" for having been there. I sure as shit never got around to thinking about "god" as a moral being in those days.
Once I started looking at it, I was disgusted and had to leave it, scared witless, in the beginning, that I was going to hell. I worked out of that bullshit, too, with more education.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
