RE: Actual infinities.
October 16, 2017 at 11:50 am
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2017 at 11:53 am by Brian37.)
(October 16, 2017 at 10:53 am)Ignorant Wrote:(October 16, 2017 at 9:39 am)Brian37 Wrote: What? No sorry, all human religions are inventions of humans and would and do all still beg the question.
Don't try to make excuses for any non Abraham religion. Watered down mythology/superstition are still just that.
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The only reason ANY and all religions exist, is because humans gap fill and those made up answers do provide social structure, but they are not an explanation to scientific reality. Most of our 7 billion get handed the social norms of their parents BEFORE they can form critical thinking skills. I don't give any religion a pass on this. NOT ANY.
Do you consider the God of Aristotle a religious God?
Is deism a religion?
By theism, I meant merely a metaphysical/purely philosophical account of reality which includes some sort of self-explanatory/self-existent "being". An infinite past is not mutually exclusive with these sorts of accounts.
Oh stop it.
I don't care if you are arguing Aristotle's watered down version or Jefferson's deism. Sure, one could argue they avoid the violent tribalism, but ultimately there is still NO NEED for either.
Our species morality is not found in fictional beings, and while metaphor can depict our nature, fiction of any kind does not explain where our evolutionary behavior is REALLY coming from.
OUR species behavior is in US, in our evolution.
For the same reason a male lion will kill rival cubs and female lions will protect those same cubs.
You DON'T NEED the mythology of antiquity, and attempting to water down that crap and call it metaphorical is just as much junk as anything else.
Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate isn't handed down to us, it isn't rooted in even metaphor even if expressed in metaphor. Our species morality is in our genes whether we do good or bad.
Aristotle did right by the idea of thinking and skepticism, the same as Paine and Jefferson, but that did not make a deist deity real, nor does our human existence need to be explained by any type of God, not authoritarian tribal, nor watered down non gang mentality deity.
No, I don't even buy liberals, when they say, "I am spiritual not religions".
How about just accept as well intended as Aristotle was, even he didn't know what we know now?
