(October 16, 2017 at 4:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: In any case, in your elaboration above, you refer to telos and gods creation..which is an explicit acceptance of the second horn of the dilemma no matter how you phrase it. You haven't resolved the dilemma or offered a third option, merely sided with the second horn. Well, okay.......but..... [1]
The god that created the human, the god that determined it's purpose or aim..also extorts it's creation to rape and genocide. [2] That is, apparently, also an aim or purpose of the same god. [3] If that;s what we're going by to determine whether or not something is good...then those exhortations to rape and genocide were good. [4] Obviously the authors of the OT thought so, they go to some length to describe how certain characters had fucked up for not adhering to that objective fully. [5]
1) Things are the way they are because god commands/creates that they be so. Yes. How is that mutually exclusive from the idea that things have their own inherent goodness?
2) I don't follow. What about human nature leads you to believe that rape and/or genocide leads to people becoming the best sort of humans?
3) What, exactly, makes that apparent?
4) But we aren't going by that. I have stated repeatedly that human nature/being-human is what determines/communicates what is morally good. I am no divine command theorist.
5) I'm not so sure it is obvious. They are, at best, confusing on these subjects and, at worst, contradictory. It is hardly obvious what they were trying to communicate.
