RE: Euthyphro dilemma
October 17, 2017 at 10:28 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2017 at 10:29 am by Ignorant.)
(October 17, 2017 at 9:47 am)Khemikal Wrote: If there -is- an inherent goodness.....that's option 1. It doesn't matter who created x, if anyone or no one created x, x would still be as good as it is. [1] The good is loved by the gods because it -is- good.
apparently you just carry their baggage in reference to creative acts and telos. / shrugs [2]
1) YES! Now stop right there and think a moment: x is STILL inherently good EVEN IF it is created. That means you admit that inherent goodness and creation are not mutually exclusive.
IF x is created, that means that its inherent goodness is DIRECTLY related to the way-in-which-it-is-created. You originally said that inherent goodness MEANS goodness without relation to god, HERE.
2) If I subscribed to the idea that god's will is NOT determined by his intellect, you would be right. If my words make it appear to you that I do subscribe to that (despite my explicit rejections of voluntarism), then I apologize. Any creative act involves an act of divine will, yes, but it is not determined by the will. The divine intellect determines the will to create in just-this-way for the sake of communicating the divine goodness.
(October 17, 2017 at 10:21 am)Whateverist Wrote: How much of your offline life do you share online? I imagine you are either a college student or, more likely, a fairly recently minted grad. Any where near the mark?
I don't share much online, and yes, you are very close.