(October 18, 2017 at 1:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(October 18, 2017 at 1:17 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Yay proof!! Finally!!! Good. Have your deity show up in the flesh and speak for itself. Because that's the only proof I'll accept. But hey! You'll be famous world-wide! You'll be a hero to all Muslims! I'm so happy for you!
I think if God revealed himself to you or made you ascend the realms and guided you by trustworthy holy guides in that, you would still disbelief and would grow in disbelief. I know I disbelieved despite proofs presented to me and him revealing himself to me.
At the end, a heart that is rebellious and does not submit, won't accept proofs and will always raise the bar. And a heart that accepts proofs, will believe, and the more higher proofs are presented would just increase in certainty, but sufficient signs that do prove the truth are enough to be certain.
If god showed up in the flesh, I would believe it existed. That's all it would take. I don't know that it would be worthy of worship - that would require a being much more benevolent than anything in the Bible or Quran. But it's going to have to SHOW UP. Without a human to speak for it, without a book.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein