(October 18, 2017 at 1:25 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(October 18, 2017 at 1:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think if God revealed himself to you or made you ascend the realms and guided you by trustworthy holy guides in that, you would still disbelief and would grow in disbelief. I know I disbelieved despite proofs presented to me and him revealing himself to me.
At the end, a heart that is rebellious and does not submit, won't accept proofs and will always raise the bar. And a heart that accepts proofs, will believe, and the more higher proofs are presented would just increase in certainty, but sufficient signs that do prove the truth are enough to be certain.
If god showed up in the flesh, I would believe it existed. That's all it would take. I don't know that it would be worthy of worship - that would require a being much more benevolent than anything in the Bible or Quran. But it's going to have to SHOW UP. Without a human to speak for it, without a book.
Yet God is the witness to all things by which you exist through his perception and has never been absent so as the need to show up (yes he can become more apparent to someone but none the less, to a degree will remain hidden as he is beyond all vision), and is the proof of what everything is, so as to need a proof for him (which he does have and has plenty of).
