(October 18, 2017 at 1:18 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 18, 2017 at 12:38 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Well said. I've heard Drich (and some others I've talked to about this) keep using phrases like "being a man" or "manhood" and imply that having girls there will somehow warp or defect it. ...Isn't learning how to act around women and how to treat them as equals and appreciate their skills and values part of "being a man"?
What you are describing is a potential momma's boy. momma's boys can treat ladies well, but can fail in every other part of society. Teating women is only one part of 1000 other skills that boy scouts were challenged to master.
Hm?
No one said treating women right should be the only thing a boy learns in scouts. We've all said that it should be an *added* important element.
Listen, I believe in masculinity and femininity. I believe it is important to teach boys how to be good men and to teach girls how to be good women. I believe the 2 sexes are different and each bring unique, complimentary characteristics. No one is saying men and women are homogenous, if that's part of your objection.
Can you explain exactly which activities will teach boys how to be good men that can't be done if girls are included in scouts?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
