(October 24, 2017 at 2:14 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: How dodgey. The Christian view is not what you say. The Christian view is that in the absence of God the universe is without meaning; whereas, a universe with God is richly endowed with meaning.
(October 24, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Whateverist Wrote: The refusal to imagine the cosmos as animated and infused with objective values is a very long way from not having very strong values oneself. Did you mean to deliberately misrepresent her position?
Either values have ontological status or they don't.
They don't.
(October 24, 2017 at 2:14 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: In the first instance they are part of the lawful order of the universe. In the second they are self-referencial psychological preferences, whims, and fancies.
They're not whims or fancies obviously. But yes they are dispositional psychological phenomenon of some kind, but that doesn't render them of no consequence. That they are dispositional, psychological phenomenon is a description that applies as much whether there is or isn't a god.
