RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 3:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 3:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Let's take a look at two different claims. Bopth of which can be found in magic book, both of which people believe on religious grounds, one of which is not subject to scientific scrutiny...the other, is.
-God strongly dislikes a lying tongue.
This claim is not amenable to scientific scrutiny, we do not possess a godometer which can measure what god likes or dislikes.
-God created the first breeding pair of human beings, and by their sin death entered the world.
This claim -is- amenable to scientific scrutiny. Death predates human beings, and there never was an original breeding pair of human beings.
Which of these claims is more important to christianity, and what can be said about the second, falsifiable and falsified claim..if one believes in the first on religious grounds?
Food for thought.
Let's dial it back twenty pages then..and you can post that, and only that.
Pool, that's not what you're saying, that's not all that you're saying, and it has never been what you're saying. The claim that this is all you are saying is subject to scientific scrutiny. If that;s all you are saying...I would expect to find little to nothing else...if I searched back through your posts. If you are saying more, or even saying something entirely different...I should be able to find that by searching back through your posts as well.
Do we need to run the experiment, or do you know what the conclusion will be? Notice, in all of it...you never claimed to be doing science, nor was I ever under the impression that you were.
-God strongly dislikes a lying tongue.
This claim is not amenable to scientific scrutiny, we do not possess a godometer which can measure what god likes or dislikes.
-God created the first breeding pair of human beings, and by their sin death entered the world.
This claim -is- amenable to scientific scrutiny. Death predates human beings, and there never was an original breeding pair of human beings.
Which of these claims is more important to christianity, and what can be said about the second, falsifiable and falsified claim..if one believes in the first on religious grounds?
Food for thought.
(November 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm)pool the matey Wrote: All I'm saying is context matters.
Let's dial it back twenty pages then..and you can post that, and only that.
Pool, that's not what you're saying, that's not all that you're saying, and it has never been what you're saying. The claim that this is all you are saying is subject to scientific scrutiny. If that;s all you are saying...I would expect to find little to nothing else...if I searched back through your posts. If you are saying more, or even saying something entirely different...I should be able to find that by searching back through your posts as well.
Do we need to run the experiment, or do you know what the conclusion will be? Notice, in all of it...you never claimed to be doing science, nor was I ever under the impression that you were.
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