(November 9, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm)SteveII Wrote: I'm not sure you can call that an argument and I don't think they are even generalizations. She just made shit up--sentence after sentence. Notice how the kudos came? The atheists here don't police their own when it comes to stupidity. I think its because they no longer recognize it. Talk about abdicating critical thinking!
I gave her kudos because I found the op interesting and thought that it was well formatted and presented in a coherent, concise manner. However, I do not share the opinion of the thread title, as IMO, it inhibits genuine opportunities for mutual learning and dialog between the secular and non-secular camps. With that said, you, along with Neo, Catholic Lady, alpha male, roadrunner, and ignorant, have posted some interesting/well formatted ideas on these boards, which I have found to be neat and kudos as a result. Hence, for me at least, a cool/interesting idea is cool/interesting regardless of whether the person presenting it is secular, non-secular, or whatever.
I disagree with you that matildas claims and assertions about theists were cool or interestong lol, but i appreciate this post from you. A lot of the stuff she said wasn't even true. like that teaching a child about faith discourages thoughtfulness, takes away personal responsibility, makes you stop maturing mentally, etc. I'm not disputing that in some cases it does, depending on how it's done, but that certainly wasn't the case for me and many many others. I was taught that doubt is good because it makes you seek answers and may lead to a deepening of your faith. I was taught that it's important to understand why we believe certain acts are immoral, and there's not a single moral teaching that I blindly follow without understanding. I'd also say I'm not an immature person, but that's just my opinion I guess lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh