RE: Theism is literally childish
November 10, 2017 at 8:30 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2017 at 8:37 am by Whateverist.)
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote:(November 10, 2017 at 7:45 am)Whateverist Wrote: Careful Neo, someone is gunning for your pompous ass title.
How is honesty being "pompous"?
Only when the honesty reveals a smugness about ones own position combined with ridicule of other positions.
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Did we have as a species back then, modern knowledge of science?
Nope, of course not. Access to scientific knowledge is a great thing, but it isn't everything. Take ABBA for example. No science and yet ...
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Do you think the beliefs back then were good? Like the belief that kings and ruling families were good? Do you think belief that women/girls were to be bartered between families like property are a good thing? Do you think condemning others because they don't belong to your tribe is a good thing?
The deficiencies of the past don't rule out the possibility that trade offs have been made which include losses as well as gains.
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: I don't think saying "that was then this is now" is pompous.
You're cute when you're being pompous. You remind me of someone ..
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: So Hawking saying "A God is not required" must make him pompous too.
Not really. It is nicely understated.
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: I do not have to refrain from criticism of ANY religions. I think humanity is much better off because of countless humans in the past questioning social norms. I don't think it s pompous that humans now reject religiously justified sexism. I don't think it is pompous that religiously based bigotry is challenged. I don't think it is pompous that LGBT and their supporters refused to accept the religious claims that were used to harm them for so long.
Of course not. Pomposity is in the manner it is delivered, not the substance of what is said.
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Is it "pompous" to state the fact that humans didn't exist 4 billion years ago? We didn't, and I wont refrain from stating the fact that in 5 billion years humans wont exist either.
No, that is almost completely irrelevant. Why'd you bring that up?
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: I get it makes humans uncomfortable to think about these things. But that does not make me "pompous".
Just a bit too strident and self righteous. Other than that not pompous at all.
(November 10, 2017 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: "Pompous" to me is thinking "all this" was put here for one species and one club to has dominion over all other clubs. THAT to be is pompous. And yes childish on a planet of 7 billion.
Oh yeah, some of those apologist dudes (okay, most of them) ball out in pomposity. But you totally have game yourself so no reason to hang your head.