Discussion, not Provocation

[henryp]

If an argument is fallacious, its conclusion doesn't follow from its premise(s). It doesn't necessarily mean that the conclusion isn't true, but if it is, the reason for it being true is not the fallacious reason given.

You really don't get what I am saying because you are so used being directed on how to think by people who really don't how to.

I am talking about language convention and people being literalists to it now and also limiting paradigms on appropriate ways to respond and a lot is just dumb and makes no sense.

Yes, it's their profession, but they are fools unfortunately with respect to the very thing they are supposed to reflect about and be experts at.

I definitely get what you are saying, and you're 100% right.  People are purposefully obstinate/obtuse/pedantic/disingenuous, and they think that's how discussion is supposed to work.  After all, it's not about an exchange of ideas, it's a game where they keep score by pretending their bullshit is worth a bunch of points even if they know it's bullshit. Politics has certainly taught us that's how it's done.  And I think it's so pervasive now, that people may not be doing it purposefully.  It's just the standard.