(November 19, 2017 at 5:09 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:1. Humans also naturally commit all sorts of harm. That does not mean we get to write it all off as natural, and therefore acceptable.(November 19, 2017 at 4:33 am)Aroura Wrote: What?
So, if I cause something to exist, then anything I do to it at that point is acceptable??
Or if not, what exactly is your point because I'm not getting it.
(also note I used subjective wrong. Yes, I think he is saying, and I know I am saying that it is subjectively immoral, because it depends on the circumstances. We are not stating it objectively).
Another side note:
I ate meat. I've made all these argument myself in the past.
We raise them for this purpose.
We are omnivorous by nature.
I've killed my own meat. I grew up on a farm. We slaughtered our own chickens and turkeys, and had our pigs and rabbits slaughtered.
None of these arguments stand up to any scrutiny once you actually look at them.
Well , not everything , cruelty against animals is just plane wrong and irational. But for the pourpouse of getting food it gets more complicated.
1. As you sayed , we are omnivourous by nature soo than imorality is questioned again. Of course we are counciouss beeings but that just lets us decide for ourselfs if we want to eat meat or not, it can't be imoral because of that .
2 As for the unnecesary suffering there are ways to kill an animal without makeing him suffer, many people don't do that but that isn't the point.
3 Every life form on this planet has a pourpouse, soo how can we be sure that some animals aren't ment just for our nourishment ?
2. It isn't just about killing them, it is about their lives being fully suffering, too. So, if I kill a person but they do not suffer, is it no longer immoral?
Think about why we call anything immoral. Is taking the life of another being with feelings and a life of it's own why murder is wrong, or is it simply the suffering of death itself?
3. Meant by whom? What do you meant it all has a purpose? How can we be sure women aren't here just to pleasure men, then?
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