Trophy Hunting Good?!

[Aroura]

1. Giant bold font means you've lost rationality.
I am talking about facts, not feelings. The fact is, morality is subjective. Another fact is that humans base a great deal of their morality on what causes unnecessary suffering. Morality is all about human feelings. Give me an example of a moral that exists completely independent of human feelings, please?
You have not given me any example of a morality based on facts alone.

2. Uh, humans mass kill animals for food. That's literally a fact. You are talking about some idealized version of farming, that's nice and all. I'm talking about the reality we live in. The one were humans raise and slaughter hundreds of thousands of animals in inhumane conditions, and kill them in terribly inhumane ways.

3. I'm still not sure what your point here is. I'll let this one go.

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Trophy hunting -is- game management, and were it not for the trophy hunting..there would be no game to manage.  Consider the cost of tranqing and euthanizing 1k elk a year.  Then ask yourself who would pay for it, just for that..forget all the habitat and herd management, and keep in mind that the way it's done at present nets the management group more than $400k a year just in the tags.

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As a semi-related aside....increasingly stringent hunting regulations combined with a declining interest in hunting over the past few years led to an absolute bumper crop of deer in N. America.  However, along with the greater population density came an explosion of chronic wasting disease.  The harsh reality, at least as far as the elk I was discussing are concerned..is this.  Unless hunters kill a -shitload- more deer, it will inevitably make it's way into the elk, and because the elk don't live solo or in isolated groups like deer do...once it's in, they're done for.  

Fatal in 100% of cases.  Pretty shitty way to go.  It;s difficult to imagine that anything other than the best of intentions are behind people not getting into hunting...and closing the door to people who do get into it..so to speak, and it;s unfortunate that this has contributed to even greater suffering than the type they'd hoped to reduce.  Increased trophy taking, and getting rid of captive cervid operations, are the solution to the problem.  More hunting, less farming.

I completely agree.  If you look at my posts in this thread, I defend game hunting to the extent that it is a necessity, in the current system at least, in order to save the lives and habitats of other animals.

This isn't a black and white issue, and I amnot the one attempting to paint it as such.  I am not saying, all killing of animals = bad.  Go hug a bunny.  I'm talking about the distinctions of each action, and each having a good reason behind it.

It is specifically factory farming animals for meat in places where it is not necessary in order to feed the population of local humans that I was objecting to. And pointing out that it is hypocritical to object to trophy hunting, but be A-OK eating that McDonalds chicken sandwich.