RE: When does biblical history begin ?
November 20, 2017 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2017 at 4:41 pm by possibletarian.)
(November 20, 2017 at 3:33 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(November 20, 2017 at 2:33 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Atheist are clueless to the spiritual world of God. You think because you can't understand it ti doesn't exist. One day you will find out the Christians are right.
GC
Wow. Because we disagree with your simplistic beliefs, we don't understand them. That's fundamentalist logic bullshit in a nutshell.
Actually it's absolutely true we don't understand them, at least in the 'making and sense at all' the bible is clearly made up stories along with many other religious stories from the period from many religions about many gods. We definitely don't understand why people believe them. I can't believe I once subscribed to this nonsense, when i started educating myself they soon fell apart as being possible.
The so called 'spiritual word of god' seems to change per denomination, creed, religion, you name it, who could possibly make sense of that. Of course if you ask a member of any specific denomination or religion ! they are the ones who have it right, and all the other religions are blind !
(November 20, 2017 at 4:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(November 17, 2017 at 7:35 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Okay here's my question,
These days there are many Christians who will support evolution and a very old earth 4.5 billions years old, with a universe that's along the lines of 14 billion years.
Somewhere in this period they throw humanity into the mix some believe Adam and Eve could still have existed, or be created especially during the time that humans were also evolving, others believe that Adam and Eve were just a story of man's fall from grace. Given that most biblical characters can be dated back by linage to Adam and Eve's children that gives us a period of around 6,000~7,000 years since those people existed. When does what the bible says become real history ?
Where does it place original sin in this context ?
This is a very narrow minded question. It assumes there were no other competing creation stories prior to the monotheisms of Jews/Christians or Muslims, and that is flat out nonsense.
I don't care which religion is trying to square modern science with the mythology of antiquity, it does not work regardless.
If you ask some Buddhists they'd claim reincarnation is proof that our atoms get recycled. If you ask Muslims they'd claim science matches their book. If you ask Hindus, same thing.
Don't get stuck on one label.
They all try to either debunk science, and when they cant do that, try to get it point to their respective clubs and writings.
I am not kidding.
Google for example.....
"Christian science"
"Muslim science"
"Jewish science"
"Buddhist science"
"Hindu science"
YOU will find in every religion websites that use apologists to try to debunk science, or apologists who try to use science to point to their club.
Creation mythology existed LONG before Christianity, Jews or Muslims.
Actually Brian, I was simply trying to get a feel for how Christians specifically managed to marry the story of so called original sin and the earths time line, given that the story stems from Adam and Eve. It was genuine question because I'm really not sure how they do it. I'm not aware of any Christian that subscribes to alternative creation stories, even though clearly they are there, even the bible as I understand it the bible has three mythologies for creation.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'