Potentially Big News On The Human Evolution Front

[AFTT47]

To get our terms correct, what you have said is true of the universe we live in. It might not be true (probably wouldn't be true) of what's outside it. It is a mistake to think of something outside the universe (assuming it exists) as not part of nature though. It is simply a part we may never be able to access but there would be nothing magical about it.

Further complicating things is that the idea of multiple universes (once a fringe idea) has gone mainstream. Each of those other universes could have its own laws of physics. I don't know what you would call the realm in which all these universes exist but it certainly wouldn't be bound by the physical laws we are used to. This is still speculative stuff but following on the things we do know about the cosmos is leading some physicists there. Like I said, still speculative but much further grounded than the idea of a timeless, supreme being. There is absolutely nothing bolstering that idea.

There is 0 proof that there's anything outside this universe in the first place. Much less that there is another universe where the physical laws would be different, and that this universe spawned from it.     

Don't you see what I'm saying? 

Maybe there's a different universe not bound by physical laws, and that's where this one somehow spawned from... maybe there's an actual entity not bound by physical laws that set this all into motion. There's no proof for either, and whichever way you go, you're taking your best guess.

Not exactly. Both are speculative but God is purely speculative. The multiverse thing used to be regarded in the same category - pretty much in the realm of science fiction and on the extreme edge of real science. But many things now point in the direction of a multiverse. Perhaps one of the most compelling is that inflation (the very rapid expansion immediately after the Big Bang) seems to require it. So while it must still be regarded as speculative, it's better than a best guess. Established science is pointing us (at least generally) in that direction. Other unproven (but highly regarded) stuff like string theory point to it also. So I don't see that God and a multiverse are equally valid propositions.

To weigh in on comsos/universe, I use cosmos as the term to include everything because of the fact that we now routinely discuss a multiverse which of course has multiple universes. I'll be happy to go back to universe if the multiverse thing falls back to fringe status.