(November 22, 2017 at 4:00 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(November 22, 2017 at 6:24 am)ignoramus Wrote: Atlas, the whole middle east will fall. It's only a matter of time.
No-one needs to intervene. It'll implode naturally.
Warnings and signs of this fall was so clear from years; the people got butchered by their governments in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Libya. Muslims didn't know that they aren't "doing it right considering the amount of blood spilled in each nation; and considering the amount of money taken forcefully from them", then Muslims and Arab are facing extinction; or at least: major unrest that will kill thousands like Syria.
Islam needed to be revised an studied earlier, I'm not speaking about years; but about 'centuries'.
It's too late now.
(November 22, 2017 at 6:39 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Atlas, if you could snap your fingers and make a wish, what country would you choose to emigrate to and what would you do once there?
Some place remote, with the ability for me to hike and spend time in nature without worrying about M.S flares; practice web design for a living.
New Zealand was a target once. Or some place cold.
(November 22, 2017 at 7:13 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yea but what kind of power will fill that vacuum?
Nobody knows until now.
Trump is on the side of the current Crown Prince (aka MBS), composing the strongest faction in all of this.
Other wings already got attacked in the"purging" campaign of MBS and Trump:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Saudi_Arabian_purge
Such strike was not even thinkable a year back.
Nobody will fill the place of these fallen fucks; MBS (the Current Crown Prince) threw them in jail to compensate for the money he lost in the purchase of Trump to be on his side.
Personally; Trump is taking the U.S into a hole that it will never rise after.
I don't know who might win. If Trump is on the side of MBS; other allies are on the side of the other factions.
(November 22, 2017 at 10:27 am)Aegon Wrote: Implying anything has happened "naturally" in the region since the fall of the Ottoman Empire
After the fall of the empire; Muslims seem like they lost hope. These countries are now just farms, ruled by the strongest, with confused people who change their views like zombies.
Well, I think I have made it clear to every label where I stand in that religion is superfluous and divisive even under the same umbrella label.
I wouldn't want the strongest to rule at least not by brute force. Stalin and Po Pot and Castro did that too.
"Strong" to me would not be about defaulting to force, but diplomacy and reason and common law.
In my 51 years I have seen far too much war and love of weapons and far too many excuses on all sides to ignore we are not a separate species.