(November 21, 2017 at 11:10 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(November 21, 2017 at 10:08 pm)tjakey Wrote: It isn't just Alabama. The POTUS is arguably a far more despicable character but enjoys the full support of Republicans everywhere. Ours, I fear, is a terminally ill society. Often I hear people say it will take us years to recover from Trump but I suspect that is getting things a bit backwards. The fact that people like Trump and Moore are on the national political stage at all suggests that our goose is already cooked. Nations don't recover from these kinds of failures of government, they fall. Then, eventually, something new grows in their place.
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I don't think so. Original Trumpies are turning on him (even in congress) and it hasn't even been a year yet. If the dems can get their shit together in the national arena I think you'll see a big change. In both dems and pubs.
I don't really see very many who are "turning" on Trump. Even those (damned few) in the Senate who have spoken against him still vote for his anti-democratic, pro-war, pro-racist, and pro-wall street policies every chance they get. No national Republican politician that I am aware of has left the Republican Party and actively voted against Trump, even those cowards who are trying to make heroes of themselves by not running again. And as for the country as a whole...if (and it is a big if) massive demonstrations start to break out, the kind that paralyze DC, the kind that have CEOs and Board Chairmans cringing in their offices and wondering if there might be a 2ed Amendment version of the French Revolution in their future, then I might see a glimmer of hope that the American people are earning the right to live in a free, democratic, and progressive society. Until then I am stuck with the fear that I live in a nation, and among a people, who have lost their way, and their nerve.
