Skinhead

[Haipule]

Cool story..but..that's not at all where skinheads, or racist skinheads..came from.

Yeah, pretty sure the skinhead movement dates from mid-1960s London.

Boru

I don't doubt that. I was relaying how in started in LA in the early 80's and the negative impact it had on the Punk Rock scene. That scene was like the Hippies in Haight Ashbury in 67' which also degraded into crime and violence.

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Yeah, pretty sure the skinhead movement dates from mid-1960s London.

Boru

This. I thought they were a counter movement to the mod's.

In LA during that Punk Rock era, we also had the Mod's and the Billy's. In the beginning, the Punk, Mod(bands like Target, 3 O'Clock) and Billy(bands like Jimmy and the Mustangs) bands played shows together. That soon ended up being a really bad idea!

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I think it's cool that in 74' bands like The Ramones in New York, Sex Pistols in London, Radio Birdman in Sydney all started playing at the same time when there was no such thing as punk rock music. It was like some kind of universal idea.

Originally, the term "Punk Rock" was a early 70' music industry term for any band that could fill a venue without being signed to a record contract. Some bands just wanted to play without becoming rock stars. They were filling clubs and pissing off the industry.

As far as I know, only two US punk bands signed to major labels like The Ramones w/Sire and the Dickies w/Warner Brothers.

In those early days in LA there was very little recorded and nothing on the radio. So, if you wanted to hear it you had to see the bands live. And EVERYBODY showed up!

The bands were forced to start their own labels and distribute their albums themselves. This led to many independent labels which eventually slammed the record industry and gave birth to "Indie Rock". Greg Ginn, the guitarist for Black Flag, kept on recording and producing local bands and had a big hit with a Fullerton based band called "The OffSpring".