(December 7, 2017 at 10:57 am)Drich Wrote:(December 5, 2017 at 12:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You mean, the same Pastor James who tried to stiff contractors for millions and then "disciplined" elders of his church when they publicly implied that he was lifting from the till of their megachurch...until they were forced to retract their condemnation in negotiation with those same elders for reasons? The same Pastor James that the church removed from positions of authority and is now squirreling away?Ah, no.
James was "paying" as He was building. Does not believe in borrowing money to build a church. The church was not always able to keep up with contractor draws/demands for money on each and every build project.
He did not discipline the elders. James has 60+ elders in his church. 3 of them were causing problems. the other 57 elders plus james publically demanded repentance from those 3. Jame later appologized for make a private matter public when push comes to shove.
https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/...lders.html
I never heard of James stealing anything. He has been accused of "gambling" away church money and as much admitted on do this when he seeds or is starting a new campus or church. And He has admitted in doing so in faith meaning telling the elders they would not begin construction till they have the total build costs in the bank. which in several cases he did not, which goes back to your accusation he was trying to skip out of paying contractors.
What James agreed to is to allow the church board simply run the adminstrative part of the church and he would remain senior pastor which allows him to do what he does best.
Being Christian does not mean one is not above sin or accusation of sin or even making mistakes. it is about how one reconciles from those sins or mistakes. At best James can be accused of being a not so good business man.
Nice try. Maybe you should read and address some items from this: https://theelephantsdebt.com/
McDonald is a total hypocrite. But keep listening and giving him/them money.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.