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Televangelists
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RE: Televangelists
(December 7, 2017 at 11:13 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 10:57 am)Drich Wrote: Ah, no.

James was "paying" as He was building. Does not believe in borrowing money to build a church. The church was not always able to keep up with contractor draws/demands  for money on each and every build project.

He did not discipline the elders. James has 60+ elders in his church. 3 of them were causing problems. the other 57 elders plus james publically demanded repentance from those 3. Jame later appologized for make a private matter public when push comes to shove.
https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/...lders.html

I never heard of James stealing anything. He has been accused of "gambling" away church money and as much admitted on do this when he seeds or is starting a new campus or church. And He has admitted in doing so in faith meaning telling the elders they would not begin construction till they have the total build costs in the bank. which in several cases he did not, which goes back to your accusation he was trying to skip out of paying contractors.

What James agreed to is to allow the church board simply run the adminstrative part of the church and he would remain senior pastor which allows him to do what he does best.

Being Christian does not mean one is not above sin or accusation of sin or even making mistakes. it is about how one reconciles from those sins or mistakes. At best James can be accused of being a not so good business man.

Nice try. Maybe you should read and address some items from this: https://theelephantsdebt.com/

McDonald is a total hypocrite. But keep listening and giving him/them money.

What I see is what I shared with you written with a clear bias. When ever the author is given an oppertuity to give james or the church the bennifit of the doubt he never identifies this oppertunity, but make his own judgement call. He makes alot of judgement call none of which ever cut in favor of the church.

So one the church is/must be the work of satan (which I can atest it is not) or the author is biased.

I provided a non biased look at this controversy and it shares the same info with out the scathing review and or hate.

Again being a christian is not about being without controversy. that is a pop culture standard not a God standard. I mean look at me and how I am hated. and everything I took spun to make me evil as possible. now why would those who inspired me be any different/be hated less or fewer attempts be made to discredit them?
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Televangelists - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: Televangelists - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2017 at 1:29 am
RE: Televangelists - by Gambrinus - December 5, 2017 at 2:55 am
RE: Televangelists - by JackRussell - December 5, 2017 at 5:59 am
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 5, 2017 at 6:12 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Televangelists - by vulcanlogician - December 5, 2017 at 8:48 am
RE: Televangelists - by zebo-the-fat - December 5, 2017 at 9:02 am
RE: Televangelists - by RoadRunner79 - December 5, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 5, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Patrick33 - December 5, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: Televangelists - by Huggy Bear - December 5, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Patrick33 - December 7, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Televangelists - by henryp - December 5, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 7, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Anomalocaris - December 7, 2017 at 8:03 am
RE: Televangelists - by Minimalist - December 5, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 5:38 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 7, 2017 at 6:22 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 8, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 8, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 11, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 11, 2017 at 6:00 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 11, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Athene - December 11, 2017 at 11:34 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 12, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Televangelists - by Athene - December 7, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Minimalist - December 7, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Valkyrie - December 7, 2017 at 5:39 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Anomalocaris - December 7, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - December 7, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 8, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 8, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 7, 2017 at 5:59 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Valkyrie - December 7, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 7:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Haipule - December 7, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Industrial Atheist - December 8, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 8, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: Televangelists - by KevinM1 - December 8, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 11, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Haipule - December 11, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: Televangelists - by WinterHold - December 12, 2017 at 9:45 pm



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