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Televangelists
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RE: Televangelists
(December 7, 2017 at 11:51 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(December 7, 2017 at 10:57 am)Drich Wrote: Ah, no.

James was "paying" as He was building. Does not believe in borrowing money to build a church. The church was not always able to keep up with contractor draws/demands  for money on each and every build project.

He did not discipline the elders. James has 60+ elders in his church. 3 of them were causing problems. the other 57 elders plus james publically demanded repentance from those 3. Jame later appologized for make a private matter public when push comes to shove.
https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/...lders.html

I never heard of James stealing anything. He has been accused of "gambling" away church money and as much admitted on do this when he seeds or is starting a new campus or church. And He has admitted in doing so in faith meaning telling the elders they would not begin construction till they have the total build costs in the bank. which in several cases he did not, which goes back to your accusation he was trying to skip out of paying contractors.

What James agreed to is to allow the church board simply run the adminstrative part of the church and he would remain senior pastor which allows him to do what he does best.

Being Christian does not mean one is not above sin or accusation of sin or even making mistakes. it is about how one reconciles from those sins or mistakes. At best James can be accused of being a not so good business man.
Uuuuuuuh-huh.  Rolleyes 

Are you his defense counsel, or something?  "I'm bad at business" is not a competent defense for embezzling and fraud.   Just a hot tip.  

You know what I find ironic?  Megachurch preachers almost invariably become a liability for the megachurches they help create.  Isn't that a pickle?  The same guys who create these massive fundamental fellowships are always out back blowing the gaffer, or shoveling money into their mistresses accounts.  What charismatic movements seem to need is a whole lot less of the charismatics.
Can you post a link to where James was convicted of embezzlement and fraud? or in you little mind is an accusation the same as guilt?

I HATE Al franken, but what I hate more is him being forced to leave on accusations. What happened to a man is innocent in this country till proven guilt in a court of law by a jury of his peers?

What gives any of us the right to read a clearly biased opposition article and make a derision that has any merit or weight?

This is asinine.

I was privy to some of the internals through out satilie church and none of it is even discussed in these hate articles. most of which are sponsed by anti church groups or denominationaly specific news organizations looking to cast doubt. Everything was made transparent repentance was offered when and where necessary and we move on. that is EXACTLY how it is supposed to work morons. we are not called to live with out sin? or do you retards still not understand this?
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Televangelists - by The Valkyrie - December 4, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: Televangelists - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2017 at 1:29 am
RE: Televangelists - by Gambrinus - December 5, 2017 at 2:55 am
RE: Televangelists - by JackRussell - December 5, 2017 at 5:59 am
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 5, 2017 at 6:12 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Televangelists - by vulcanlogician - December 5, 2017 at 8:48 am
RE: Televangelists - by zebo-the-fat - December 5, 2017 at 9:02 am
RE: Televangelists - by RoadRunner79 - December 5, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 5, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Patrick33 - December 5, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: Televangelists - by Huggy Bear - December 5, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Patrick33 - December 7, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Televangelists - by henryp - December 5, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 7, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Anomalocaris - December 7, 2017 at 8:03 am
RE: Televangelists - by Minimalist - December 5, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 5:38 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 7, 2017 at 6:22 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 8, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 8, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 11, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Televangelists - by brewer - December 11, 2017 at 6:00 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 11, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Athene - December 11, 2017 at 11:34 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 12, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Televangelists - by Athene - December 7, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Minimalist - December 7, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 7, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Valkyrie - December 7, 2017 at 5:39 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Anomalocaris - December 7, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - December 7, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Drich - December 8, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 8, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 7, 2017 at 5:59 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Valkyrie - December 7, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 7:29 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Haipule - December 7, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Industrial Atheist - December 8, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: Televangelists - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 8, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: Televangelists - by KevinM1 - December 8, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm
RE: Televangelists - by pocaracas - December 11, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: Televangelists - by Haipule - December 11, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: Televangelists - by WinterHold - December 12, 2017 at 9:45 pm



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