List of reasons to believe God exists?

[GrandizerII]

Do you think sharing a species designation is enough to objectively invest me in the well-being of 8 billion other humans?

This isn't about being emotionally invested in the well-being of all your fellow human beings. The discussion is about what morality should be like, regardless of whether you choose to invest in that or not.

Doesn't that seem silly? It seems silly to me. But you need that premise for harm being objectively bad.

Nah, I don't need that premise to be true. That's open to discussion. Just be real with me, and don't give me an explanation that involves a practically non-existent entity.

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Can you ask an unconscious person who stabbed them, and whether or not they've been harmed?  Can you ask the person who stabbed them..who isn't there....whether or not they knew they harmed that person?

Can you determine..in the absence of so much as a whisper from either party, that the person has been harmed?  Does a gaping wound not seem like an adequate indicator of harm?  Long story short, while harm may be subjectively experienced..it can be and routinely is objectively demonstrated.

Good point.

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I don't necessarily fully agree with harm-based morality, but it is objective in the sense that if there is harm involved, then it's not a good thing. Harm, bad. No harm, not bad. Objective morality need not be grounded in a person, it can be grounded in concepts such as pain or harm.

Mmmmm, no. You must ground the notions of pain and harm in some larger principle defining what constitutes harm and the circumstances that determine if pain is desirable (e.g. warning of injurious danger) or undesirable as unnecessary suffering.

I'm sure that's what moral philosophers do for a living. Nevertheless, we can have a chat about this without the need to invoke a practically useless entity just because you need to involve it in some way.