(December 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 8, 2017 at 4:59 pm)SteveII Wrote: And my contention is that there are no changes to the relevant facts from then until now that are not "biases caused by feelings, ideas, opinions, etc., of a sentient subject". I am not aware of any metaphysical reasoning nor relevant scientific understanding that would avoid the conclusion that the abortion issue always was, is, and always will be based on an opinion of relative value of the mother's concerns/desires against that of the unborn baby's life--a conclusion that is the very epitome of subjective. Unless you can provide some, you have lost the debate.
Abortion is here to stay, now and forever, at least until the human race is no more; it is a human right:
United Nations Committee Affirms Abortion As A Human Right
You say that with some sense of satisfaction. Over 50,000,000 babies have died and you use it as a barb. Doesn't matter what your position on religion is, this should sicken you. You sicken me.