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No problems with atheism then...
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 22, 2011 at 7:49 am)TheAtheistTroll Wrote: There is a distinct lack of cheese-puffs being worshipped in Atheist dogma. That is a problem in my eyes, and it makes about as much sense as most of the other 'problems' presented in here so far.

You say (on your avatar) "There is no god - deal with it".

That outlook may be fine for you, but a lot of people have a big problem with it. And I don't mean only religious folks neither.

In the UK earlier this year there was an advertising campaign run by the Secular Society or Atheist Association or some such, where they paid for a slogan on the sides of buses. The idea I guess was to counter some X-tian propaganda campaign, I think it was probably the "Try praying..." one (there's still a sign around the corner from me - gets right up my nose every time I cycle across the lights up the road).

Anyway, even them, these hard core atheists/humanists/wha'ever couldn't come up with a halfway decent slogan to write, like I'd have said basically what you say on your avatar or somefing, but you know what they came out with? This:

"There's probably no god. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

See the pic here

What the f...? IMO that was a pathetic compromise revealing that this committee (clearly it was a committee to have come out with such a wet slogan) did not even have the courage of its own convictions. Pathetic. But ideal for illustrating my point - which is that for loads of folk it just aint as easy as you like to make out.

So ... that's the reality. IMO, as someone who REALLY BELIEVES that god is an illusion and that the world would be a far better place if that was a more generally held view than it is at present, it seems to me that it would be a good idea to help them come to a similar view. IE reality.

OK, I know, you probably disagree. I daresay you think that everyone should be just like you and deal with the bleedin' obvious. But that if you don't mind me saying so is an extremely subjective and blinkered view. For the FACT is whether or not you like it there's loads of stuff done by religious organisations that people depend on, or think they depend on, and just telling them to "deal with it" is not a particularly helpful suggestion.

Now what I'm suggesting is that in order for secularism (or whatever its called) to make any progress then the most essential (ie thought essential by those who use them) of these need to be provided with alternatives. That's it really. I don't see what all the vehemence is about, to me it's another example of the bleedin' obvious. Only apparently not so obvious to a sufficient number of atheists for anything much to be done about it.

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No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 3:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Skeptic - August 18, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Jackalope - August 18, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by theVOID - August 20, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Captain Scarlet - August 22, 2011 at 9:32 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 18, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Welsh cake - August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 18, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 18, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 18, 2011 at 5:38 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Skeptic - August 18, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 6:17 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:06 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Skeptic - August 18, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 6:38 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:55 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 18, 2011 at 8:46 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 7:15 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Faith No More - August 19, 2011 at 5:31 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rainydays - August 19, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by MilesTailsPrower - August 19, 2011 at 6:40 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 19, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by MilesTailsPrower - August 19, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 19, 2011 at 6:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Kayenneh - August 19, 2011 at 6:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Welsh cake - August 19, 2011 at 9:52 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:37 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Welsh cake - August 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 4:54 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 6:00 pm
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 20, 2011 at 5:15 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 19, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 12:13 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 12:21 am
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 20, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by TheAtheistTroll - August 22, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:19 am
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:35 am
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 10:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 10:50 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:03 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 8:42 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:50 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 9:39 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 9:46 am
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 10:52 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:19 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 22, 2011 at 7:11 pm
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Minimalist - August 22, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 7:59 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by twocompulsive - August 22, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 5:38 am
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RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 7:58 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 23, 2011 at 8:08 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 8:34 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 8:39 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 8:54 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 23, 2011 at 12:27 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2011 at 12:48 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 23, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 8:06 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 8:44 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 9:05 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 23, 2011 at 8:44 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 8:57 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 9:09 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 23, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 9:19 am

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