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Poll: Are there any problems with atheism?
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There are no problems with atheism
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There are some problems with atheism
17.24%
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No problems with atheism then...
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 20, 2011 at 12:09 am)theVOID Wrote:
(August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm)Rayaan Wrote: There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it?

A problem for you only, burden of proof and all that jazz.
Agreed void. The other problem is that there is plenty of evidence that atheism is correct. Like all evidentiary claims it is not conclusive, but is still more probable than immaterial beings and the supernatural:

- the hiddenness of god and reasonable unbelief
- religious confusion, or the geography of religion
- the inductive problem of evil
- the success of natural science
- the failure of intercessory prayer
- evolution
- cosmic origins and the nature of time
- mind brain connection and the failure of substance dualism

Theism on the either hand has a series of giant arguments from incredulity (design, cosmological arguments), unproven claims around the abstract (TAG and morality), and appeals to the subjective (personal experience and the revelations). None of these are very compelling are they?, especially when they support any or even all religions claims (except for those pertaining to revelation). Even if you could win all these arguments it is then not possible to show they are infact all the same god.

Atheisms problem is that it cannot 100% conclude that every god does not exist but then nothing can from an evidentiary standpoint. Of every well defined god you can submit knowledge of however we could probably get real close to it by examining their logical inconsistencies.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
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No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 3:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Skeptic - August 18, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Jackalope - August 18, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by theVOID - August 20, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Captain Scarlet - August 22, 2011 at 9:32 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 18, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Welsh cake - August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 18, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 18, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 18, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 18, 2011 at 5:38 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Skeptic - August 18, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 6:17 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:06 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Skeptic - August 18, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 6:38 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:55 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 18, 2011 at 8:46 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 7:15 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Faith No More - August 19, 2011 at 5:31 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rainydays - August 19, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by MilesTailsPrower - August 19, 2011 at 6:40 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 19, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by MilesTailsPrower - August 19, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 19, 2011 at 6:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Kayenneh - August 19, 2011 at 6:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Welsh cake - August 19, 2011 at 9:52 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:37 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Welsh cake - August 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 19, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 4:54 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Shell B - August 19, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 6:15 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 20, 2011 at 5:15 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Cinjin - August 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 19, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 12:13 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 12:24 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 20, 2011 at 8:43 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 20, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by TheAtheistTroll - August 22, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:19 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Tiberius - August 22, 2011 at 10:20 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:25 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:35 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 8:20 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:37 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 8:43 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 10:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 10:50 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:03 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 8:42 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:50 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 9:39 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 9:46 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Ace Otana - August 22, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 10:52 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:19 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by padraic - August 22, 2011 at 7:11 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Minimalist - August 22, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 7:59 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by twocompulsive - August 22, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 5:38 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Rayaan - August 23, 2011 at 6:18 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 6:41 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 7:45 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 7:58 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 23, 2011 at 8:08 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 8:34 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 8:39 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 8:54 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 23, 2011 at 12:27 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2011 at 12:48 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 23, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 8:06 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 8:44 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Godnose - August 23, 2011 at 9:05 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Napoléon - August 23, 2011 at 8:44 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 8:57 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 9:09 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by frankiej - August 23, 2011 at 9:11 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by Epimethean - August 23, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: No problems with atheism then... - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 9:19 am

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