Cucumber Dildo

[Skeptic]

I already answered that, even if you did give the benefit of the doubt to vegetables, eating animals uses more vegetables than eating the vegetables directly since the animals use lots of energy just by being alive.

Nonetheless, cows do not consume more food than they provide human beings with, because even in the case of corn, there is more nutritional value in the cow than all of the feed it was given. Good stuff really.

What? You're saying that the calories cows consume is less than the calories of the meat that comes from them? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and is in fact impossible. What you have there is a perpetual motion cow.

Um, so, wait a minute, it is wrong to eat animals because it is a waste of vegetables? I'm dying here. Don't you veggie types want to save the animals regardless? If we don't eat them, more veggies will be used because they will keep living.

It was purely in response to a hypothetical posed to me about the possibility of sentience in plants. If people don't eat animals then the breeders (should) produce less of them, it's not financially viable to feed up animals that there's no market for.

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For those who clearly just want to 'win an argument' that isn't there I suggest you find something else to do.

I don't think anyone is here just to "win an argument". theVOID pointed out a very large flaw in your reasoning, and that demands some sort of response.

This is a discussion forum; if you aren't here to discuss different points of view, why on earth are you here?

This isn't a debate; nobody is winning and nobody is losing. You've presented a certain view, but haven't been able to back it up logically, which is why you were challenged.

Well I currently have thevoid on ignore as he seems to have a rather large chip on his shoulder regarding veganism. Perhaps I'll look at it later when I have more patience.

I am here for discussions but if I have to spend all my time explaining myself in this thread and rebutting questions that are posed to try and catch me out (which I believe many are) rather than getting on with other discussions then it's not exactly an enjoyable environment for me to be in.

Bear in mind that I'm just one person fielding questions from many others. It does feel like a quite hostile environment.