Men's Rights Movement

[FFaith]

I'm sorry, I stand corrected. You referred to The Red Pill, but didn't post it. That doesn't negate the point I'm making, which is that when you write:


-- discussing the merits of her feminism, and your take on it, is very apt. You certainly had no problem offering your own opinion of feminism, but get frustrated when others don't share your outlook and instead offer their own?

You opened the discussion yourself. It's a good discussion.

3. I'm not "frustrated about people's opinions on feminism." I'm frustrated at people having a problem with others saying some men's issues are valid. Im frustrated with people having a problem with a person being for womens rights but choosing not to use the lable of feminist on themselves. Im frustrated about people calling ME anti feminist for simply saying some men's issues are worthy of discussion.

This. The White Lives Matter comparison is dumb. Does Neil Degrasse Tyson hate atheism just because he doesn't want to be labeled an atheist? Of course not. Most of the people here calling themselves egalitarian are not even close to alt right sympathizers, and they have clearly shown that with their posting histories.

I would say that MRA started their own thing because they didn't see their issues being addressed enough, and saw too many women downplaying their issues. If these women downplaying these issues had their child taken out of their life for the most part by a court, maybe they would understand a little better. I rarely see feminists talking about men's problems with getting a fair shot at custody in the courts. What do I see feminists talking about all the time though? Men talking over them (which happens to all sexes. Men talk over eachother all the time). Yes, that's so much more important than someone having their child torn from them. Manspreading and other dumb stuff like that? Ugh.

I have no problem with the statement that women have it worse overall, but I agree with you that men's disadvantages shouldn't be downplayed so much. People can call themselves whatever they want, whether that be feminist, egalitarian, or whatever. I don't care. Pretty much all groups and movements have shitty people in them, but I'm not going to let that affect how I look at the issues. I support blacks getting better treatment and standing in society, even though many people involved with or supporting BLM think I should be treated like shit for being white. Even though there are many Muslims who think I'm just a filthy kufar who should be killed, I still support Muslims around the world and am against all the harm that the military industrial complex causes to all these majority-Muslim countries. I think women deserve better from society even though there are a great deal of shitty feminists. I think men deserve better, even though there are many sexist clowns who call themselves MRAs.