Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 8, 2025, 4:43 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Hawai'i
#20
RE: Hawai'i
(December 30, 2017 at 8:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 30, 2017 at 7:19 pm)Haipule Wrote: I don't believe in "creationism!" I don't believe in "something from nothing". I don't believe in magic evolution either. There has to be something more logical. Something simple we just aren't seeing whether God or nature.

If I look at it through a biblical lens, then the flood caused the "Expanding Earth Theory" introduced by science and not a clergy. Well, that expansion ain't too long ago. So the earth expands and eventually there is a hot spot in the pacific that makes islands far, far away from continents. Not too long ago.

Some shit happened here! Whatever happened is natural and explainable!

God Himself is NOT supernatural! He made this stuff, He didn't create a damned thing! Nowhere in the bible does it say "God Created". All such verbiage is translated into it by people whom manipulate Scripture! However, if we look closer, the bible only says make, form, build, establish--no "magic"! No "from nothing"! If we understand vacuum mechanics then nothing will ever need be "from nothing". Building blocks are building blocks!

Whatever happened here is from something natural, not magic evolution and not magic God! And whatever it was, was extremely fast!

I think that evolution is real to a logical point but, the long millions of years pre-biblical superimposed on biblical is going to work against you if we do not consider Hawai'i. And, do not recognize how ridiculously fast modern life came into being and is evolving compared to 4.56B years of existence.

No sensible person accepts the Expanding Earth Theory.

Boru


If anything, the mean diameter of the earth likely shrank by a small amount, a few dozen to maybe a hundred feet or so, over its life, as more of the earth’s inner core cooled and underwent phase transition.

(December 30, 2017 at 2:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Hawai'i, island of Kure, starting where the other islands have, and are now forming, is at best, according to science, 28M years old. The rest of the islands are much newer. One, the island of Hawai'i, isn't done yet and one, Lo'ihi, at least, will make it's appearance at some later date.

Yet, some of you have given me a evolutionary time scale and process. Did you ask Hawai'i if you are right? 

You say reptiles preceded birds. In Hawai'i, there are fossils of extinct pre-man birds but never a pre-man reptile? No dinosaurs! No land mammals! None! Nothing here fits your timeline or hypothesis!

Hawai'i is conveniently located in the middle of absolutely nowhere! Obviously, these unique Hawaiian birds did not have time to "evolve" here or, anywhere else, as they are/were only here! Obviously then, nor did they fly here!

So, 'splain me why they, the indigenous only to Hawai'i birds, with out time for a possible nothing to evolutionary existence process, and way too far to fly, are/were here--only here! I am asking you as I have no clue!

Throwing away the Bible would give you more time for real clues.

Many Birds can fly transoceanic distances as routine part of their yearly migration.  This is well documented and thus well known for centuries, although it was not documented inside the tiny part of the real world that would be familiar to the provincial Iron Age yokels who concocted the Bible, so if you resort to the excuse of Bible is somehow connected to the all knowning, that would explains why you, being no wiser than so ignorant and idiotic a rag as the Bible, can be so ignorant about birds.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Hawai'i - by Haipule - December 30, 2017 at 2:46 am
RE: Hawai'i - by downbeatplumb - December 30, 2017 at 5:28 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - December 30, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by chimp3 - December 30, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 30, 2017 at 6:52 am
RE: Hawai'i - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2017 at 7:11 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 30, 2017 at 7:34 am
RE: Hawai'i - by LastPoet - December 30, 2017 at 7:27 am
RE: Hawai'i - by brewer - December 30, 2017 at 7:41 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 30, 2017 at 8:33 am
RE: Hawai'i - by LastPoet - December 30, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 30, 2017 at 9:05 am
RE: Hawai'i - by LastPoet - December 30, 2017 at 1:02 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2017 at 7:47 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - December 30, 2017 at 7:19 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by chimp3 - December 30, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - December 31, 2017 at 12:16 am
RE: Hawai'i - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2017 at 8:02 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Anomalocaris - December 31, 2017 at 2:36 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - December 31, 2017 at 7:53 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Anomalocaris - December 31, 2017 at 11:52 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - January 1, 2018 at 3:41 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Anomalocaris - January 1, 2018 at 3:53 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Whateverist - December 31, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Little lunch - December 31, 2017 at 10:05 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - January 2, 2018 at 2:49 am
RE: Hawai'i - by chimp3 - January 1, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: Hawai'i - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 2, 2018 at 4:39 am
RE: Hawai'i - by Haipule - January 2, 2018 at 6:45 pm



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)