Hawai'i

[Haipule]

No sensible person accepts the Expanding Earth Theory.

Boru

If anything, the mean diameter of the earth likely shrank by a small amount, a few dozen to maybe a hundred feet or so, over its life, as more of the earth’s inner core cooled and underwent phase transition.

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Hawai'i, island of Kure, starting where the other islands have, and are now forming, is at best, according to science, 28M years old. The rest of the islands are much newer. One, the island of Hawai'i, isn't done yet and one, Lo'ihi, at least, will make it's appearance at some later date.

Yet, some of you have given me a evolutionary time scale and process. Did you ask Hawai'i if you are right? 

You say reptiles preceded birds. In Hawai'i, there are fossils of extinct pre-man birds but never a pre-man reptile? No dinosaurs! No land mammals! None! Nothing here fits your timeline or hypothesis!

Hawai'i is conveniently located in the middle of absolutely nowhere! Obviously, these unique Hawaiian birds did not have time to "evolve" here or, anywhere else, as they are/were only here! Obviously then, nor did they fly here!

So, 'splain me why they, the indigenous only to Hawai'i birds, with out time for a possible nothing to evolutionary existence process, and way too far to fly, are/were here--only here! I am asking you as I have no clue!

Throwing away the Bible would give you more time for real clues.

Many Birds can fly transoceanic distances as routine part of their yearly migration.  This is well documented and thus well known for centuries, although it was not documented inside the tiny part of the real world that would be familiar to the provincial Iron Age yokels who concocted the Bible, so if you resort to the excuse of Bible is somehow connected to the all knowning, that would explains why you, being no wiser than so ignorant and idiotic a rag as the Bible, can be so ignorant about birds.

I am trying to understand where I live and how it happened since magic evolution is not the answer. There is only one bird, now or ever, proven to migrate to these islands. Yet, it was a bird sanctuary before man showed up in the mid first millennia AD. The bible cannot answer these questions either.

If the birds brought the seeds to plant this place, then what did they eat here before they grew? Why are these things that grew only found here? Do you have any idea how long it takes for sand and dirt to appear? Did the seeds float here first? No, first the dirt then the seeds then the birds. Do you know that Kauai is much smaller yet has far more beaches then the Big Island? Did you know that about half of the Big Island looks like the moon?

I am NOT trolling. But, your anti attitude of anti-bible and anti-theism is NOT objective.

Today is New Years Eve and it's a beautiful cloudless sunny day with genital trade winds and 80 degrees at 1:30pm. This place is absolutely beautiful and there is no place like it on earth--I looked(I have been all over this globe). Killer beaches, killer waves, killer chicks in bikinis on killer beaches watching surfers surf killer waves in winter!

Why does this place have 800 different types of flies? More then any place on earth! And if everything just somehow made it here, what about all the critters world wide that never made it(before man) like scorpions, frogs, lizards, snakes, roaches and seagulls? Still no seagulls!  

I would be far easier to explain Bermuda, Malta, the Galapagos and Canaries then here. I'm sure the answer is knowable beyond magic evolution or fundamental Christianity.