Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist

[Edwardo Piet]

How can you have the clues if you've failed to get them? Silly.

Do you think that's honestly what you think I meant? Lol. You seem very obtuse right now. It's not difficult to figure out what I'm trying to say here.

By clueless rather than inattentive I mean clueless rather than inattentive. They have very distinct meanings.

You can be without clues without failing to get them unless you're equivocating.

To fail to get them doesn't merely mean to not get them. It means to try and not get them. My point is this has nothing to do with his unwillingness to put the effort in... (that's where your equivocation is, because I'm referring to try as in effort rather than try as in attempt)..... it doesn't matter how much he looks he can't see.

How can it be so difficult to get such a simple message through to you?

It's like I said, he's clueless rather than inattentive. He is looking but not seeing.

My whole point was this has nothing to do with efforts on his part and everything to do with him being... well... clueless. You do know what "clueless" means right?

Of the definition you've given (and I haven't googled it, I'm assuming you're quoting accurately), I will draw your attention to the word "understanding" ... because it's pretty hard to understand anything if you are inattentive to the details of that something.

My point is that he's too clueless to be capable of understanding what he's looking at. It has nothing to do with effort or willpower and everything to do with him being... clueless.

Perhaps. Or perhaps he paid no attention.

And my point is it seems to me that he's more clueless than careless.

Perhaps he should have simply thought about how his actions might be affecting her -- especially after she verbally expressed discomfort -- and done as advised and chilled out.

It's useless to speculate about what should have occurred to us. Of course it should have occured to him. And the fact that it didn't, IMO, is exactly why I think he's clueless rather than careless. He simply didn't see the cues when he looked at them when most people would look at them and see them.

I fucking hope I wouldn't be complacent enough to miss those cues in his situation, that's for fucking sure.

If it was a girl I'd only recently met I'd be wayyyyyyyyy too nervous to be complacent enough to safeguard my inability to take hints. Thankfully. But if I felt too comfortable who fucking knows how clear the woman would have to be when my subconscious would find a loophole in everything. And that's what it seems to me that he was doing. It wasn't conscious on his part. At least I hope it wasn't.

It would never be conscious on my part.

Thankfully all this stuff would be super obvious to me because ... like I said... I err on caution.

But I guess I empathize with his lack of empathy.

Or should I say... I can relate to his lack of empathy............ sounds less punchy that way though.

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Sounds like another thread entirely, bud. Go get some sleep, and g'night.

Yeah it's 9.30 AM... I will get to bed today eventually lol.