(January 19, 2018 at 7:00 pm)FireFromHeaven Wrote:(January 19, 2018 at 6:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Thomas Jefferson might have been interesting. Thomas Paine would definitely have been interesting.
Aquinas is just another medieval clown who thinks "god" is the answer to everything.
Nice meeting you.
K.
(January 19, 2018 at 6:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Ah, right..so act and potency as relayed by aristotle. I think it's totally legit.
Hail Zeus, yes? Are you current on your temple tax to the oracle at delphi?
I don't think Zeus is a good fit for the First Cause that the idea of act and potency would entail. Do you or some other atheist have a good argument for how the First Cause (or Prime Mover) could be something other than God.
I don't believe in any First Cause or Prime Mover. I don't think anything was/is ultimately caused. Everything is just is. Causality and movement are a thing only when we analyze things from a temporal perspective.