Extraterrestrials

[Cinjin]

In the most generous interpretation, cutting out all of the anal probings during happy hour in rural america (it was your boy Jimbo, not aliens, sorry Cletus!).....many people report seeing UFOs.  

I'm completely comfortable dismissing thousands of UFO sightings if the subject is aliens..because even if there were aliens they're not likely to be the explanation for very many of those ufo sightings.

Do you have any favorites?  I'll take one credible alien craft over mountains of ufo accounts.  Quality, not quantity.  "Too much" bad evidence is still bad evidence.

(I want to believe superbad)

I too am very comfortable dismissing MANY sightings. And if sightings were the only evidence we have, I wouldn't have even bothered. Also to clarify for everyone, I do not claim to know for absolute fact that extraterrestrials are visiting earth, but I have found plenty of compelling evidence to warrant a real consideration (and dare I say belief) of the possibility. But yes, I do think that extraterrestrials have shown at least some interest in this planet. When all the likely and the plausible has been exhausted without explanation, the extraordinary must be considered. 

Thousands of people have "seen" Jesus. Seen Bigfeets. Seen Nessie. Seen what they dearly want to see.

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There is no physical law that say everybody's opinion is as valuable as everybody else's opinion. Some opinions are fucking STUPID.

Agreed on all counts. Many opinions are really ridiculous.
But you'll have to explain to me how accepting that intelligent life likely exists outside of our solar system is perfectly acceptable, but that consideration of that same intelligence visiting our little corner of space makes one "fucking stupid." 

My thoughts on alien abductee accounts, specifically:

I don't see why a species possessing the advanced technology/capability required to travel light years should have such a fascination with anal probing. 
Buttholes aren't that complex, comparatively.

I don't have an opinion yet on the abductee phenomenon, as I have done little research on it. That being said, the anal probe thing is not a real thing. 
It's a joke made up in science fiction movies that took off and got a life of it's own. From what I understand most abductees have never reported anal probing.

I'll take one credible alien craft over mountains of ufo accounts.

My favorite was this doofus who said he saw a UFO speeding low across the sky one foggy night.  He had a shaky cell phone video to back him up.

When the investigators went out to check in the daytime they found that he was standing on the edge of a beach with a promontory running out and with a highway on it and there were cars driving along the highway.  The speed limit on the road was 40.

As noted, people see what they want to see.

...And being a skeptic myself, I would assume that there are MANY "sightings" that would fall into this category. Like I said, if sightings were the only evidence of extraterrestrials, I wouldn't even bother. Everyone seems to completely ignore the incredible amount of government documents testifying to the existence of aliens, crash sites still radioactive, documented implants, the testimonies of dozens of decorated military officers and witnesses that number in the hundreds for one event. The USS Roosevelt alone has hundreds of witnesses for single events.

My point is only that, yes, of course people do see what they want, and I agree with you. That doesn't make the subject unworthy of serious consideration.

Yes, this is about miracles from our Heavenly Father.

Miracle sightings around the planet now number in the tens of thousands since the 1940s and there's an overwhelming amount of compelling cases for miracles from God on this planet. Oddly enough, I have found that many atheists scoff at the notion of miracles happening and/or their being a gift from our Lord and Savior.
I find it truly incredible that many open-minded people will not even consider the possibility.

So...

What are your thoughts on the matter?
Are they all hoaxes? 
Do you think miracles have been performed by our Heavenly Father?
Fátima?
Resurrection?

Discuss.

And here you have the coup de grace. 
It's ok to believe in intelligent life outside of earth as long as you don't think it can go anywhere. AND somehow, that means that anyone willing to look at it from a rational scientific position should be compared to people who believe in magic.  Why?

How is equating a genuine well-documented phenomena to the subjective "miracles of god" remotely legitimate?  It's not.
"Space is too big. They're too far away. Light speed limit. I dont understand it, therefore it's not possible."
Meanwhile, the origins of the Universe can't completely be explained either, and we get mocked for that, but somehow that's acceptable.

You don't want to believe that extraterrestrials can visit earth thats fine. I was the same way, but I'm telling you this, once you stop limiting your evidence to only sightings by stupid rednecks and actually digest all the data (and there's TONS of it), you may find what I did:  I can no longer rule out the possibility.


Have an excellent night ... or day for our friends across the pond. :wink: