Why some humans are so evil: double standards and irreligion

[henryp]

Or...the increase in quality of life ("stuff") for most people is a result of people trying to make the world better, not the driver.  Or both.  Do you really think people are neanderthal morally-vacuous animals that would be out raping and killing if we didn't have our current society in place?  That's...a really dark and frankly unsupported view.  Shit was bad in the past.  It's going to be just by definition, because as years go on, things get better and better for more and more people.

I guess I just have more faith in humanity than you.  I'm proud to be a member of the human race.  We're pretty much good folks.

How do women fare on the rape front in 3rd world countries?  30%+ people in Uganda had Aids in the 80's, cause they were just rolling through villages raping everybody.  That's what humans look like without stuff and consequences.  We were talking about Haiti, a 2006 UN report said half of the women living in the Port au Prince slums had been raped. 

There's still plenty of child sex trafficking going on in undeveloped countries.  Once you take away our 1st world society, things are just as awful as they've ever been.  What's more likely the exception?  You and me in 1st world countries for the last 30-50 years?  Or everybody for 199,000 years, and plenty of people in modern times.

If you're looking for the thing that separates us, it's stuff.