But does anyone actually have free will if God made us knowing beforehand what we would do and what choices we would make?
Isn't that just like making a custom batch of robots that are free to do as they want, but due to foreknowledge of their programming, we already have their life planned out and charted. That isn't even truly free will. So, in essence, your God is just playing games with us if he is punishing or rewarding us in any way for actions he himself must have, as dictated by basic logic, programmed into us upon our arrival as beings.
We are perpetually playing into his hands, we can be nothing more than a toy for Him.
Law is definately not the way to come at the subject of his existance, as He can only be defined ambigiously at best in that subject.
Perhaps in his allowing suffering and hell to coexist with his loving nature?
Or better yet his all powerful nature?
If we had the resources God had, who knows what humans might do. That is, only the omniscience.
Isn't that just like making a custom batch of robots that are free to do as they want, but due to foreknowledge of their programming, we already have their life planned out and charted. That isn't even truly free will. So, in essence, your God is just playing games with us if he is punishing or rewarding us in any way for actions he himself must have, as dictated by basic logic, programmed into us upon our arrival as beings.
We are perpetually playing into his hands, we can be nothing more than a toy for Him.
Law is definately not the way to come at the subject of his existance, as He can only be defined ambigiously at best in that subject.
Perhaps in his allowing suffering and hell to coexist with his loving nature?
Or better yet his all powerful nature?
If we had the resources God had, who knows what humans might do. That is, only the omniscience.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
